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we want a michigan for everybody. and i think you see the turnout today, you hear the reaction around the state of michigan, people don't want the right-wing agenda that's being passed in this lame duck. >> reporter: here's my question. the argument that the governor makes and republicans here and supporters of this is why not give individual workers a choice to join the union if they want to join the union. wouldn't it make you and the leaders of the unions present a case to be part of it? why not give them that choice? >> they already have that choice. again, the right wing doesn't put the honest facts out there. under u.s. labor law, people have a choice -- >> reporter: that's true, but if you work on the line at ford or gw -- or gm, you have to pay in a large percentage of those union dues. that's the way it works. >> you don't have to be a union member. but you have to pay your fair share. just like if you live in a community, you pay for your fair share of the road cleaning, of the police, of the fire. people wh
we want a michigan for everybody. and i think you see the turnout today, you hear the reaction around the state of michigan, people don't want the right-wing agenda that's being passed in this lame duck. >> reporter: here's my question. the argument that the governor makes and republicans here and supporters of this is why not give individual workers a choice to join the union if they want to join the union. wouldn't it make you and the leaders of the unions present a case to be part of...
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after the break cities like detroit michigan bore the brunt of the republican prasher of the nation's financial industry five years later is no way past time for the federal government to step up and help cities like detroit get back on their feet. here as mitt romney trying to figure out the name of that thing that we americans call a donor. i'm sorry i'm just a guy here's an awful lot of money for you sir are you know what that is my other terror cells right now want to give us a defeat terrorism the only poll the christian. can you believe it's. going to put you to distract us from what you and i should care about because there are profit driven industry that's sensationalistic garbage because that breaking news i'm having martin and we're going to break that. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so silly you think you understand it. and then you. see some other part of it and realized everything. welcome to the big picture. in screwed news the city of detroit is asking president obama for some help this week detroit city councilwoman joanne watson called for a financial
after the break cities like detroit michigan bore the brunt of the republican prasher of the nation's financial industry five years later is no way past time for the federal government to step up and help cities like detroit get back on their feet. here as mitt romney trying to figure out the name of that thing that we americans call a donor. i'm sorry i'm just a guy here's an awful lot of money for you sir are you know what that is my other terror cells right now want to give us a defeat...
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hundreds of union workers responding to michigan's republican controlled legislature's push to make michigan the 24th right to work state. the vote takes place tuesday. governor snyder is now backing the plan. >> this is solely focused on their relationship. shouldn't the the opportunity to say they want to be long or not. second piece is this will be good for economic development for more p and better jobs coming to michigan. >> the union workers agree with the governor they argue michigan was built on unions. they claim the gop majority state legislature is making an attack on the middle class. >> on tuesday it's important because they are going to try to reconcile the bills. the governor who said he didn't want the legislation now says he is going to sign it. so it's an attack on working families and we are going to be there and not stand for it. >> they are still standing for it because over the weekend union organizers continue to prepare their numbers for take to go the streets this week staging demonstrations against the measure. if the vote goes through they say it will hurt organize
hundreds of union workers responding to michigan's republican controlled legislature's push to make michigan the 24th right to work state. the vote takes place tuesday. governor snyder is now backing the plan. >> this is solely focused on their relationship. shouldn't the the opportunity to say they want to be long or not. second piece is this will be good for economic development for more p and better jobs coming to michigan. >> the union workers agree with the governor they argue...
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understand her six michigan state legislators rushed right to work legislation through it would make michigan the twenty fourth right to work state in the country now in face value a right to work laws sounds like a great thing who would want the right to work in any given state but in fact right to work bills are just another orwellian push to limit the rights of workers to statute that prohibits employers from being able to dictate that employees must associate with a union or pay union dues as a condition of hiring for union state like michigan this is a big blow to union workers rights the wages in health care currently afforded to employees will negatively go down as the strength of the union becomes compromised in fact and right to work states wages are on average lower states have higher poverty rates and according the bureau of labor statistics workplace deaths are forty one percent higher now this is just the latest assault on the workers in the burgeoning trend of the union busting happening nationwide so to help me break down of what it all means and what else michigan is
understand her six michigan state legislators rushed right to work legislation through it would make michigan the twenty fourth right to work state in the country now in face value a right to work laws sounds like a great thing who would want the right to work in any given state but in fact right to work bills are just another orwellian push to limit the rights of workers to statute that prohibits employers from being able to dictate that employees must associate with a union or pay union dues...
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today i'll be talking to kerry mosse they sell you about protests related to a bill that could turn michigan into a right to work state and also be talking up author georgetown university professor a doll is about egypt unfinished revolution with only a few weeks left in two thousand and twelve all examine u.s. defense spending and look at some top secret programs of the pentagon's notorious black budget so without further ado let's break set. all right guys let's talk some more about america's longest war afghanistan now there's been a lot of news recently about the failing war and ongoing occupation in the recent reports of the u.s. hosting tens of thousands of special operations troops on blackwater bases in the country after the two thousand and fourteen deadline it just came out that u.s. troops in afghanistan routinely target children on the battlefield yes you heard me right children according to one senior army officer children with potential hostile intent are now considered threats because the taliban sometimes uses them to assist with attacks against coalition forces on top of usi
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they they are exempt in michigan. you lack sort of that piece of the messaging strategy, so what are you going to do specifically in michigan? do you have, you know, already phone banks going? are you guys going -- what is your strategic plan beyond just messaging to working people? >> i think it's that we have to organize at a level and depth we've never done before. there's a million people that are parts of unions in michigan. we're going to reach out to every one of them. we're doing a training today. we're going to do one-on-one conversations like we do in electoral activity to get every member to resign a card both for political action and for union membership, and make sure we register people to vote. we think the reason we won in ohio is baugh because bargaining matters for building the mrilgdz class, and it's the questions in michigan and in wisconsin were about candidates and issues, and so that's we think we need to expand this fight beyond simply electoral strategy and include private sector organizing, co
they they are exempt in michigan. you lack sort of that piece of the messaging strategy, so what are you going to do specifically in michigan? do you have, you know, already phone banks going? are you guys going -- what is your strategic plan beyond just messaging to working people? >> i think it's that we have to organize at a level and depth we've never done before. there's a million people that are parts of unions in michigan. we're going to reach out to every one of them. we're doing...
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demonstrators came from all over michigan and neighboring states. united auto worker, teamsters, brotherhood of ewhether he can tri call workers and school teachers. the school district reports 750 staffers called in sick and schools were closed. this is a fight that the michigan governor, republican rick snyder said he did not want. he says he warned labor proponents against an effort called proposition two. which would have enshrineed selective bargaining rights in the michigan constitution. that ballot issue failed in the november election. >> what continued after that is start of the discussion right to work. >> it became a loud and boisterous discussion. so i felt at times in terms of the good leadership to say i didn't want it on my agenda now. it's here. >> demonstrators say working men and women are the subject of political retribution. >> retribution for standing up and fighting for working people. they want to us attack the different groups. they attack us. >> right to work legislation would outlaw the mandatory union due and membership as
demonstrators came from all over michigan and neighboring states. united auto worker, teamsters, brotherhood of ewhether he can tri call workers and school teachers. the school district reports 750 staffers called in sick and schools were closed. this is a fight that the michigan governor, republican rick snyder said he did not want. he says he warned labor proponents against an effort called proposition two. which would have enshrineed selective bargaining rights in the michigan constitution....
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into michigan flies mike binder who is a director from michigan and he convinces the governor that hey michigan should have one of these financial incentive schemes that all the other states have which is basically not only giving all sorts of tax breaks like property tax to studios but actually giving them money to bring their productions to your state so michigan introduced this scheme and within two months twenty four movies had signed up to film in michigan from to the entire year before the productions estimated that they would spend one hundred ninety five million dollars filming there and in return they would be refunded about seventy million in cash yeah i mean this is important because before enron before world com before to liberalize debt obligation before the shadow banking system before goldman sachs slush fund before jamie diamond to became ruler of the underworld of financial terrorism there was something called ali wanted telling where.
into michigan flies mike binder who is a director from michigan and he convinces the governor that hey michigan should have one of these financial incentive schemes that all the other states have which is basically not only giving all sorts of tax breaks like property tax to studios but actually giving them money to bring their productions to your state so michigan introduced this scheme and within two months twenty four movies had signed up to film in michigan from to the entire year before...
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it also has ties to the family in michigan. of course, president obama weighed in on this yesterday when he was in the state of michigan. i think the president got right to the heart of the matter and was on point. >> these so-called right-to-work laws don't have anything to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. giving you the right to work for less money. >> joining me now is a reporter from mother jones magazine. great to have you with us, andy. take us behind the curtain and explain the relationship of the koch brothers and all of these right-to-work organizations that have been pushing this behind the scenes. >> what you see in michigan, behind the scenes as you say, are a number of grassroots groups that have names like americans for prosperity, michigan freedom fund and so forth. they are there to push lawmakers to pass right-to-work legislation, funded by some of the biggest interests on the conservative side. the koch brothers, we're talking about the prince family, eric prince used to run black w
it also has ties to the family in michigan. of course, president obama weighed in on this yesterday when he was in the state of michigan. i think the president got right to the heart of the matter and was on point. >> these so-called right-to-work laws don't have anything to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. giving you the right to work for less money. >> joining me now is a reporter from mother jones magazine. great to have you with us, andy. take us...
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that's the idea that built michigan. that's the idea that is at the heart of the economic plan i've been talking about all year long on the campaign trail. i want to give more americans the chance to earn the skills, the businesses they're looking for right now. and give our kids the kind of education they need to succeed in the 21st century. i want to make sure america leads the world in research and technology, and clean energy. i want to put people back to work, rebuilding our roads and our bridges and our schools. that's how we grow an economy. i want us to bring down our deficits but i want to do it in a balanced, responsible way. and i want to reward -- i want -- businesses and manufacturers like detroit diesel, right here, creating jobs, right here, in redford, right here in michigan, right here in the united states of america. that's where we need to go. that's the country we need to build. and when it comes to bringing up manufacturing back to america, that's why i'm here today. since 1938, detroit diesel has be
that's the idea that built michigan. that's the idea that is at the heart of the economic plan i've been talking about all year long on the campaign trail. i want to give more americans the chance to earn the skills, the businesses they're looking for right now. and give our kids the kind of education they need to succeed in the 21st century. i want to make sure america leads the world in research and technology, and clean energy. i want to put people back to work, rebuilding our roads and our...
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after the break cities like detroit michigan for the broad republican prasher of the nation's financial industry five years later is no way past time for the federal government to step up and help cities like detroit get back on their feet. with a. science technology innovation called the least of elements from around russia we've got the future covered. the gold fever. turned thousands into slaves. much but also among brotherhood involved in the mines and since i started working on them when i studied. this multinationals. there's a cash cow to be milked dry and it's time i think that in this country gold medal logie as an environmental cost which is an acceptable local business was labeled illegal and controlled by criminals you know in order to protect our lives our families and to work in peace. but we are forced to pay protection to illegal groups what price is colombia going to pay. the people. the modest affect on our t.v. . in screwed news the city of detroit is asking president obama for some help this week detroit city councilwoman joanne watson called for a financial lifeline
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. >>> time for a look at whose talking the tensions are high in michigan after lawmakers passed right to work legislation. it let's workers decide whether or not they want to vojune a union. >> brian kelly sitting down with greta van susteren to discuss the developments about what he hopes it will do to the state's unemployment. >> the unions make their case to the employees with a closed union shop like we have had in the past employees were -- it was a compulsory requirement they had to pay the union. the union has to earn their business, earn their dues. that will put the employees in a position of having greater freedom and kroefrl the organization that represents them. but then also it will make the union more responsive. when we look to the neighbor to the south we see the pipeline in the state of indiana of jobs and job growth has been very impressive. we look at that very closely when we did our planning here in michigan as well and gaining the support for this new law or this change in our law. also about 25 percent we figure of firms won't even put your state on the radar sc
. >>> time for a look at whose talking the tensions are high in michigan after lawmakers passed right to work legislation. it let's workers decide whether or not they want to vojune a union. >> brian kelly sitting down with greta van susteren to discuss the developments about what he hopes it will do to the state's unemployment. >> the unions make their case to the employees with a closed union shop like we have had in the past employees were -- it was a compulsory...
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this fight is not over. >> we are going to get to michigan in a moment. first we want to bring in today's political power panel and dig in on the big topics of the day. msnbc contributor joy ann reid, also managing editor for the grio. msnbc contributor ari melber, correspondent for the nation and republican strategist alice stewart. great to see all three of you. joy ann, moments ago, boehner saying the sides are far apart. the cliff 20 days away. the posturing continues with the presidential politics and the president saying this is going to happen. so why can't these two men meet in the middle? >> it's interesting, because you're hearing in the public pronouncements almost no movement. the president reportedly lowered his target on tax, you know, revenue from 1.6 to 1.4. boehner stayed exactly the same, 800 billion. they are differing on how to get there. they are still saying the same things they have always been saying but then you have other reports in the "wall street journal" and bloomberg that behind the scenes the staffs are talking real numbers
this fight is not over. >> we are going to get to michigan in a moment. first we want to bring in today's political power panel and dig in on the big topics of the day. msnbc contributor joy ann reid, also managing editor for the grio. msnbc contributor ari melber, correspondent for the nation and republican strategist alice stewart. great to see all three of you. joy ann, moments ago, boehner saying the sides are far apart. the cliff 20 days away. the posturing continues with the...
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this is going to move michigan forward. it's going to move our state forward, allow us to compete for great paying jobs. we believe the uaw, they're going to have to be competitive, they're going to have to earn the dues from those union members and from the people on the line, and it they earn them and they're competitive, they will stay in the union and they will keep their membership. so i think they're up to the task. i think they're up to being xet at this just like everyone else in our society and we look forward to them being more responsive to workers. >> one last question, i know the funding relationship of mr. king as i said he was elected press of an international union with a good reputation. your organization i want to know more about. again, for the fifth time, who pays your salary? >> i told you i work for americans for prosperity. >> who pays your salary? >> i told you, americans for prosperity. >> and who is that? >> that's a nonprofit. we have over 87,000 activists. >> are the koch brothers behind you? jus
this is going to move michigan forward. it's going to move our state forward, allow us to compete for great paying jobs. we believe the uaw, they're going to have to be competitive, they're going to have to earn the dues from those union members and from the people on the line, and it they earn them and they're competitive, they will stay in the union and they will keep their membership. so i think they're up to the task. i think they're up to being xet at this just like everyone else in our...
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if governor snyder signs this bill in michigan as expected, michigan would be the most heavily unionized right to work state in the country. alison kosik, describe what's happening now. demonstrators are starting to gather outside of the capitol. are they going to be allowed inside as this historic legislation is passed? >> reporter: they are inside right now as well as outside, so behind me you've got several hundred protesters that began arriving, even before daylight, with their signs, some inflatable rafts, often a symbol of union protests, sitting on the lawn outside here and inside, yes, there are protesters inside, especially right where the gallery is, right where the house floor is, because they want to watch the house in action when it begins in session at 10:00 a.m. in about an hour, so they'll be able to watch the legislative process at work. but there's a huge spillover crowd inside the capitol building, a huge crowd, a couple hundred, in each rotunda on three floors chanting, you can hear their voices inside the capital, once you walk in, you can hear their voices reverb ra
if governor snyder signs this bill in michigan as expected, michigan would be the most heavily unionized right to work state in the country. alison kosik, describe what's happening now. demonstrators are starting to gather outside of the capitol. are they going to be allowed inside as this historic legislation is passed? >> reporter: they are inside right now as well as outside, so behind me you've got several hundred protesters that began arriving, even before daylight, with their signs,...
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in michigan would lose. that number is over $46 million a year in dues. michigan, just one state. nationwide, we're not talking about public employee unions yet. let's do so, nationwide government employee unions collect, are you ready for this number? that is taxpayer money, going in the form of wages to the government class, if you will, public employees receiving and paying $14 billion in dues alone. that is what is at stake here. this is not just about money, it is not just about politics, it is about both. the right to power sought by organized labor. where does that money go? i have to tell you it goes straight to the president's party, the democratic party, during this election cycle, public system or unions and their afilliated packs gave of their millions and millions of dollars to the democrats, the demes received from those unions, think about this one. 93% went to the democratic party. 93%. notopoly that, unions made up a large part of the democratic ground both o operation on all , local, state
in michigan would lose. that number is over $46 million a year in dues. michigan, just one state. nationwide, we're not talking about public employee unions yet. let's do so, nationwide government employee unions collect, are you ready for this number? that is taxpayer money, going in the form of wages to the government class, if you will, public employees receiving and paying $14 billion in dues alone. that is what is at stake here. this is not just about money, it is not just about politics,...
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we saw last week the state of michigan adopted a new law that gave workers the freedom not to join a union. now, they didn't do that because it was politically expedient or that they thought it was a good idea, because it actually is probably going to get a lot of the politicians in hot water in michigan. but what they did is looked at 23 other states who had adopted the same idea and saw that they were attracting businesses and creating jobs, and these states without raising taxes had more revenue to build schools and roads and hospitals. it was just an idea that worked. it's not a political idea to give people the freedom not to join a union, it's an american idea and it's an idea that works. we can look around the country today and again, we make these things political and give them labels that are good or bad, depending on, i guess, which party you're in. but we know a number of states have been real innovative and creative with what they're doing in education. we see what they've done in florida to create more choices. in louisiana particularly. forced by hurricane katrina to st
we saw last week the state of michigan adopted a new law that gave workers the freedom not to join a union. now, they didn't do that because it was politically expedient or that they thought it was a good idea, because it actually is probably going to get a lot of the politicians in hot water in michigan. but what they did is looked at 23 other states who had adopted the same idea and saw that they were attracting businesses and creating jobs, and these states without raising taxes had more...
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[ laughter ] >> dude, you're from michigan, detroit, "8 mile." you've got to come up with better rhymes than, busting disgusting! if you want to win the rap battle-of-got to put some effort into it! you had one job at one factory. wouldn't you seize every benefit you could? yo! ♪ palms sweaty, knees weak, building chevys. ♪ ♪ like the volt, you plug it in and you win ecologically, because if it were an actual race, you would not ♪ ♪ actually, you have to go for the union or robots are going to take away our jobs ♪ ♪ or to the chinese kids with the tiny hands the work will go ♪ ♪ this opportunity comes once in a lifetime yo ♪ [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. military families face, we understand. at usaa, we know militar
[ laughter ] >> dude, you're from michigan, detroit, "8 mile." you've got to come up with better rhymes than, busting disgusting! if you want to win the rap battle-of-got to put some effort into it! you had one job at one factory. wouldn't you seize every benefit you could? yo! ♪ palms sweaty, knees weak, building chevys. ♪ ♪ like the volt, you plug it in and you win ecologically, because if it were an actual race, you would not ♪ ♪ actually, you have to go for the...
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here you are on the floor of the michigan legislature. let's hear what you said. >> there will be blood. there will be repercussions. we know that we've got a hundred represented folks intended to walk in saying i'm not going to pay dues anymore. >> there will be blood. what are we to take from that? there will be blood. was that a premonition? were you suspecting it would get this violent? >> the full seven-minute video kind of leads up to this point to state that this is one of the most important and divisive issues that the michigan house of representatives could have taken up. i personally do not condone violence. i do not -- >> what did you mean by blood? i'm sorry. just tell me that world. what came to mind for you? >> what came to mind for me is if you don't learn from history, you're bound to repeat the mistakes of history. and in the speech that i gave, i talked about the battle of the overpass. we snow thknow when we have two ferociously battling on the right to work, the right to unionize, the polar of cysts on this issue, what
here you are on the floor of the michigan legislature. let's hear what you said. >> there will be blood. there will be repercussions. we know that we've got a hundred represented folks intended to walk in saying i'm not going to pay dues anymore. >> there will be blood. what are we to take from that? there will be blood. was that a premonition? were you suspecting it would get this violent? >> the full seven-minute video kind of leads up to this point to state that this is one...
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he is a democrat from michigan. he has been the at forefront of labor issues in that state since the 1960s. he is obviously against what happened in the state government. we'll talk to him a little bit what is next and what does it mean for the transitioning u.s. economy. jon? jon: there are brand new developments, jenna, in the alaska serial killer case. who police say this confessed killer of a young barrista was also targeting and why he never carried out his deadly plan. >>> as a deadly bloody civil war rages in syria, the opposition gets new support from around the wormed and the united states. what president obama just said. and a look how this crisis figures in the foreign policy challenges mr. obama faces in his section term. that is -- second term. that is next. [shouting] having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! [ chuckles ] right, baby. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress
he is a democrat from michigan. he has been the at forefront of labor issues in that state since the 1960s. he is obviously against what happened in the state government. we'll talk to him a little bit what is next and what does it mean for the transitioning u.s. economy. jon? jon: there are brand new developments, jenna, in the alaska serial killer case. who police say this confessed killer of a young barrista was also targeting and why he never carried out his deadly plan. >>> as a...
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"michigan passes what you make of this? guest: it is a blow to working people all across the country. when you look at where unions have been successful, wages are higher. unions are responsible for lifting the american people into the middle class. through collective bargaining, sustaining and making sure people are in a decent wage. i think the president said it well. it's not an opportunity -- it is an opportunity for people to earn less when you have legislation like this. interesting how michigan moved along this line. i think there will be a backlash. once people think this through, they will fundamentally begin to realize it is important. host: pennsylvania, democratic line, joe. you are on with congressman john larson. caller: i agree with what the congressman started off saying. not talking about the fiscal cliff but about jobs. this is what you don't hear on any of the major media, especially fox. just the fiscal cliff all day long. and don't raise taxes on the wealthy or corporations. the corporations in this cou
"michigan passes what you make of this? guest: it is a blow to working people all across the country. when you look at where unions have been successful, wages are higher. unions are responsible for lifting the american people into the middle class. through collective bargaining, sustaining and making sure people are in a decent wage. i think the president said it well. it's not an opportunity -- it is an opportunity for people to earn less when you have legislation like this. interesting...
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this is to move michigan forward. about more and better jobs and worker choice. >> thank you very much, governor. thanks for joining us on a busy day. obviously there on the capitol. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> joining me in the studio for her take on what we've just heard from governor snyder and also the current state of the fiscal cliff negotiations in washington is our colleague and friend ruth marcus from "the washington post." columnist for "the washington post." ruth, this whole issue in the midwest, this used to be most likely in the southern states, but this really is moving, and we're seeing a real decline in union household membership about half what it was 40 years ago. it used to be 24%. now it's 11.8%. >> unions are reeling, and the more states that enact measures like this, the more unions will be reeling. their penetration, the private sector is something like 7% of the private sector work force is unionized, and i have to say -- i don't use words like this very often, i thought some of
this is to move michigan forward. about more and better jobs and worker choice. >> thank you very much, governor. thanks for joining us on a busy day. obviously there on the capitol. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> joining me in the studio for her take on what we've just heard from governor snyder and also the current state of the fiscal cliff negotiations in washington is our colleague and friend ruth marcus from "the washington post." columnist for...
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>>guest: why would the president spent yesterday in michigan railing against something that the michigan legislature is going to do when we are facing a few days before going over the cliff? i don't get it. unless the president things he will gain in the short temperature -- term politically by going over the cliff but long term historians put the blame on the president of the up. it may look like a gain short term, but in the long run, is that really helpful to the president's reputation in 20 or 30 years they could not get a deal and push the country into another recession or a short-term recession? >> harry reid, the majority leader, would say very unlikely we would have a deal by christmas, ostensibly we are running out of days on the calendar. if that is the case and he quibbles that the republicans have not come up with specifics, are you against running to the clinton rates or are you okay where that if it avoids the hoops of looking for like revenue? >>guest: i am in favor of anything that gets an agreement. it seems to me, why are we focusing on that narrow part of this entire s
>>guest: why would the president spent yesterday in michigan railing against something that the michigan legislature is going to do when we are facing a few days before going over the cliff? i don't get it. unless the president things he will gain in the short temperature -- term politically by going over the cliff but long term historians put the blame on the president of the up. it may look like a gain short term, but in the long run, is that really helpful to the president's reputation...
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the michigan governor snyder has vetoed that legislation. that will not go into law in the state of michigan. >> more now on the efforts to return to normal in newtown, connecticut, after the school shooting. we hear from the mothers of two sandy hook elementary school students, one survived the attack and the other did not go to that school on friday. and molly line says the moms are ready to get their kids back-to-school. >> exactly. they also have students that go to the other newtown schools that went to class today saying it was good to get the kids folk and both support the move to go to the new school in monroe for all the sandy hook elementary school. the third grader survived the massacre the he was at school and by the end of the week they can look at the new school in monroe. and karen's son was kept home from school on friday, he does not know he has lost friends only a bad man came to the school and he is one of many kindergarteners gathering to be together to do crafts and to have holiday fun before the season gets going, and t
the michigan governor snyder has vetoed that legislation. that will not go into law in the state of michigan. >> more now on the efforts to return to normal in newtown, connecticut, after the school shooting. we hear from the mothers of two sandy hook elementary school students, one survived the attack and the other did not go to that school on friday. and molly line says the moms are ready to get their kids back-to-school. >> exactly. they also have students that go to the other...
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the gentleman from michigan. mr. conyers: mr. speaker, i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from michigan is recognized. mr. conyers: ladies and gentlemen, h.r. 6620 is a commonsense bill that will ensure the continued safety of the white house by extending e the ability of the secret service to protect former presidents, and i'm proud to join with the chairman, mr. smith of judiciary, in support of this bill. for presidents who didn't serve prior to 1997, current federal law provides that the secret service's protection terminates 10 years after the president leaves office. the 10-year limitation was enacted in 1994 when the nature of threats to former presidents was more limited. but times have changed, and it's an unfortunate fact that former presidents will require secret service protection for the rest of their lives. therefore, this bill will simply restore the law to its prior form. when a president of the united states completes his term, they remain a symbol of our nation. sad
the gentleman from michigan. mr. conyers: mr. speaker, i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from michigan is recognized. mr. conyers: ladies and gentlemen, h.r. 6620 is a commonsense bill that will ensure the continued safety of the white house by extending e the ability of the secret service to protect former presidents, and i'm proud to join with the chairman, mr. smith of judiciary, in support of this bill. for presidents who didn't serve prior to...
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president obama troubles monday to an auto plant in michigan to merge congress to extend tax breaks for 998% of americans.
president obama troubles monday to an auto plant in michigan to merge congress to extend tax breaks for 998% of americans.
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now michigan will become the 24th right to work state. alex perez, abc news, lansing, michigan. >>> and we have another milestone tonight for american taxpayers. perhaps the most infamous bailout of the whole financial collapse was the rescue of corporate giant aig. taxpayers, you may remember, poured $182 billion into the company to keep it afloat. but today, the u.s. treasury sold its last share of aig stock. and it turns out, taxpayers made a profit of $22.7 billion. and today, that good news sent a jolt across wall street. the dow closing up, the fifth straight day of gains. the longest rally since march. >>> we want to show you an image that came into our news room today. imagine seeing this through your front windshield. it was the scene on an interstate highway in west virginia today. a massive gas line explosion, flames 75 feet high. so intense firefighters couldn't even approach. eye witnesses say it sounded like a boeing 757. the fire raging for an hour, completely destroying four homes, damaging five others and leaving two peop
now michigan will become the 24th right to work state. alex perez, abc news, lansing, michigan. >>> and we have another milestone tonight for american taxpayers. perhaps the most infamous bailout of the whole financial collapse was the rescue of corporate giant aig. taxpayers, you may remember, poured $182 billion into the company to keep it afloat. but today, the u.s. treasury sold its last share of aig stock. and it turns out, taxpayers made a profit of $22.7 billion. and today, that...
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plus, after the bell, michigan congressman sander levin said going back over the cliff would also bring what he calls a human cliff. he'll join us live to talk about that and why failure to lead now would lead to chaos. all right. i'm being told right now that secretary tim geithner has also joined the meeting and vice president biden is also there as well. we have a whole committee gathering at the white house. >> heavyweights. >> these are the most actively traded stocks at the new york stock exchange right now. stay with us. back in a minute. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... excuse me, sir i'm gonna have to ask you to power
plus, after the bell, michigan congressman sander levin said going back over the cliff would also bring what he calls a human cliff. he'll join us live to talk about that and why failure to lead now would lead to chaos. all right. i'm being told right now that secretary tim geithner has also joined the meeting and vice president biden is also there as well. we have a whole committee gathering at the white house. >> heavyweights. >> these are the most actively traded stocks at the...
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. >> plus, fighting the poll gram in michigan. the plan to fight for democracy, the right wing media distracts with this. [bleep]. >> we'll tell you what's really happening and why they have it all wrong. you're watchi ining "politics nation" on msnbc. ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example, is computer animated. it's not real. geico's customer satisfaction is quite real though. this computer-animated coffee tastes dreadful. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 % or more on car insurance. someone get me a latte will ya, please? up high! ok. don't you have any usefull apps on that thing? who do you think i am, quicken loans? ♪ at quicken loans, our amazingly useful mortgage calculator app allows you to quickly calculate your mortgage payment based on today's incredibly low interest rates... right from your iphone or android smartphone. one more way
. >> plus, fighting the poll gram in michigan. the plan to fight for democracy, the right wing media distracts with this. [bleep]. >> we'll tell you what's really happening and why they have it all wrong. you're watchi ining "politics nation" on msnbc. ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example,...
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obama the road to michigan he was trying to sell his tax hike proposal. he claimed michigan's law that gives workers the right to choose whether or not they want to be long to a union is about politics not economics. listen to this. >> we have to say this. what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to better bargains. >> so-called right to work laws they don't have to do with economics they have everything to do with politics. what they are really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. we don't want a race to the bottom. we want a race to the top. we -- (applause) >> america is not going to compete based on low skill, low wage, no worker's rights. we have to get past this whole situation where we manufacturer crises because of politics. >> despite what the president said the new right to work law does include collective bargaining rights. while preached the right to workers he says american people show compassion. speaker boehner while he fights to keep america from plunging off the fiscal cliff. >> if you have an
obama the road to michigan he was trying to sell his tax hike proposal. he claimed michigan's law that gives workers the right to choose whether or not they want to be long to a union is about politics not economics. listen to this. >> we have to say this. what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to better bargains. >> so-called right to work laws they don't have to do with economics they have everything to do with politics. what they are really talking about is...
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let's take michigan as an example because it has been in the press. here is the state that produces the automobiles for america that without president obama and the bailout of the auto industry, probably wouldn't in business right now. you've got to governor down there instituting right to work policies that are against the interests of 30% of every living person in michigan. 30% of the residents in michigan live in a family that is associated with a labor union. instead, they focus on taking away women's rights, standing for the most extreme lmentses of the tea party that got rejected in this last election. my point is this, huge opportunities for democratic governors in those states to point out and make sure that we have governors who are focused on balanced budgets and creating jobs not standing in the way of women rights, minority rights, and all the other areas of social radical right politics that is defined if republican party an republican governors in general. >> let me ask about california. do you expect the governor to seek re-election in
let's take michigan as an example because it has been in the press. here is the state that produces the automobiles for america that without president obama and the bailout of the auto industry, probably wouldn't in business right now. you've got to governor down there instituting right to work policies that are against the interests of 30% of every living person in michigan. 30% of the residents in michigan live in a family that is associated with a labor union. instead, they focus on taking...
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the michigan polls show this is a winner for people who with unions. the governors ratings are very mediocre. majority say that after they hear both sides, they are against right to work and 80% say this is not -- this shouldn't be a priority at all. actually, more say they're going to hold it against legislators for voting for it than reward them for it. >> we know what we will be talking about in 2014 in the midwest. we have that clear. we know what this will be about. >> we already had a debate about this early in the year. scott walker -- >> he sort of -- >> it's hard to say the union people will have to be worried right now. >> it does feel as if when this moves, it moves. the question is, can they calibrate on another policy. we asked in the last 100 years how many presidents were elected after serving in the house, but not in the senate. there's just one. president george h.w. bush was a congressman for texas, unsuccessful candidate for the united states senate. then of course he was u.n. ambassador, cia director and vice president before he was
the michigan polls show this is a winner for people who with unions. the governors ratings are very mediocre. majority say that after they hear both sides, they are against right to work and 80% say this is not -- this shouldn't be a priority at all. actually, more say they're going to hold it against legislators for voting for it than reward them for it. >> we know what we will be talking about in 2014 in the midwest. we have that clear. we know what this will be about. >> we...
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if he's right, and in the meantime, michigan trying to be the 24th state with right-to-work laws, and unions are not happy about it expressing their frustration and how it is going to alienate that state's republican governor from unions. wisconsin ring a bell? a top fundraiser for president obama helped him get re-elected on how that's affecting this entire mood and tone, even here in washington for maybe years out after this. ♪ neil: michigan en route to be another wednesday? could be just as devicive and could be the 24 #th right to work state, but that created enormous tensions prompting the president the united states to visit saying he's against this measure that governor rick snyder supports, and both branches of republican legislature have already passed. that is to give workers the choice whether they want to be a union or not. union members say it is not that simple, that this is really a trojan horse for dismantling them. don, the adviser to the president of the united states had a big fundraiser for the president helping get him re-elected. don, you're an entrepreneur, a
if he's right, and in the meantime, michigan trying to be the 24th state with right-to-work laws, and unions are not happy about it expressing their frustration and how it is going to alienate that state's republican governor from unions. wisconsin ring a bell? a top fundraiser for president obama helped him get re-elected on how that's affecting this entire mood and tone, even here in washington for maybe years out after this. ♪ neil: michigan en route to be another wednesday? could be just...
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take you there live to michigan for the latest. >>> signs of hope. are president obama and speaker boehner about to give birth to a two-party fiscal cliff deal? how both sides are trying to meet in the sensible center. >>> and history making newlyweds. robbie perry and paris prince are the first male couple to be celebrated four their wedding in "jet" magazine's famous love section. the men join me on their history making moment and breaking stereotypes. can your moisturizer do that? [ female announcer ] dermatologist recommended aveeno has an oat formula, now proven to build a moisture reserve, so skin can replenish itself. that's healthy skin for life. only from aveeno. look this isn't my first christmas. these deals all seem great at the time... but later... [ shirt ] merry christmas, everybody! not so much. ho ho ho! this isn't that kind of deal. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. to the best vacation sp(all) the gulf! [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. it doesn't matter which
take you there live to michigan for the latest. >>> signs of hope. are president obama and speaker boehner about to give birth to a two-party fiscal cliff deal? how both sides are trying to meet in the sensible center. >>> and history making newlyweds. robbie perry and paris prince are the first male couple to be celebrated four their wedding in "jet" magazine's famous love section. the men join me on their history making moment and breaking stereotypes. can your...
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this is a big deal to michigan. you have to remember, michigan was built on unions. the united autoworkers union was born here. unions are really the backbone to this state. so it would be a huge blow if this law passes. not only here in michigan but across the country. because it could really undercut, has the possibility of undercutting the power and influence of unions. once again, not just here in michigan but across the country. this really goes beyond politics. andrew potter, talked with him today, he's in a union, he's a republican, and he's against this republican-backed measure. >> it's a smoke and mirror attempt to take away the representation that these members and these hard working class citizens are going to receive. >> reporter: but those in favor of this bill say, you know what, it does give workers the freedom to choose what they want to do. whether or not they want to join a union and pay those union dues. and they say it also grows jobs. >> it actually makes unions more accountable and makes them more responsive to their members because now the uni
this is a big deal to michigan. you have to remember, michigan was built on unions. the united autoworkers union was born here. unions are really the backbone to this state. so it would be a huge blow if this law passes. not only here in michigan but across the country. because it could really undercut, has the possibility of undercutting the power and influence of unions. once again, not just here in michigan but across the country. this really goes beyond politics. andrew potter, talked with...
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it's about the foworkers of michigan. they work hard to provide for their families and grow our great state. it's clear they are focused on politics. we're focused on the hard-working men and women who make our state so great. >> what i gather from news reports -- tell me if this isn't right. the teachers union is boycotting and starting to close schools tomorrow in protest. that sort of thing happens, they ought to get fired. first of all, is it true? are they going to boycott school days and hurt the kids? >> we are seeing kids closed because teachers are calling in. it's unfortunate. they need to put kids first. we need to put our future first. that's what the law does. if we get to the debate on the issue, we're asking to give workers the choice so they can make the decision about which organizations they want to join and which they don't want to join. unfortunately a lot of politics get drug in. the issue gets put aside. unfortunately politics demonstrates -- just takes over the issue. we're not going to let it happe
it's about the foworkers of michigan. they work hard to provide for their families and grow our great state. it's clear they are focused on politics. we're focused on the hard-working men and women who make our state so great. >> what i gather from news reports -- tell me if this isn't right. the teachers union is boycotting and starting to close schools tomorrow in protest. that sort of thing happens, they ought to get fired. first of all, is it true? are they going to boycott school...
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michigan workers get up every day to literally build, grow and make michigan a fantastic state. they deserve much better respect than that. >> brian: there was a referendum on the ballot to make michigan a permanent union state. how did that go? >> it was overwhelmingly rejected by the voters of our state. it was an overreach and i think the voters spoke very clearly against putting that in our state constitution. >> brian: how do you defuse the anger, if the majority of people are in your camp on this, how do you defuse the anger before the 10 to 15 at least that are upset and the thousands of school teachers that didn't go to work on tuesday in protest? >> as we saw, again, much of those protesters were brought if from out of state. what i think we need to do is focus on michigan's workers. i think we need to focus now, the unions will remain free to make their case. but now michigan workers will become free to make their choice. and ultimately i think this is about opportunity. this is about new jobs and better careers for michigan workers. michigan's brightest days are in fr
michigan workers get up every day to literally build, grow and make michigan a fantastic state. they deserve much better respect than that. >> brian: there was a referendum on the ballot to make michigan a permanent union state. how did that go? >> it was overwhelmingly rejected by the voters of our state. it was an overreach and i think the voters spoke very clearly against putting that in our state constitution. >> brian: how do you defuse the anger, if the majority of...
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geiss, the michigan state democrat saying there will be blood if they do this in michigan. jay carney said, well, i didn't see that comment. doesn't sounds like it necessarily means what you are implying it means but the president likes civil debate in general and that's what we want to see in michigan. >> reporter: remember a few years back in 2009-2010 in the leadup to the obama-care vote, the tea party was described as brown shirts, racists, astro turf protesters. they were kind of phoney protesters. they weren't real grassroots people. they were accused of so many things. and there was no violence. fairly peaceful in their protests and gathering'. but this happened yesterday and there is a big yawn from the collective media, and frankly a flat liner reaction from the white house press secretary jay carney. if the shoe were on the other foot we know what would be happening. we would have a round of condemnation from democrats and republicans as well who would say there is no place for this. these are innocent lawful americans expressing their first amendment rights. they
geiss, the michigan state democrat saying there will be blood if they do this in michigan. jay carney said, well, i didn't see that comment. doesn't sounds like it necessarily means what you are implying it means but the president likes civil debate in general and that's what we want to see in michigan. >> reporter: remember a few years back in 2009-2010 in the leadup to the obama-care vote, the tea party was described as brown shirts, racists, astro turf protesters. they were kind of...
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. >>> plus, michigan's right to work, a cosmic close shave and an update for you on that little guy, the ikea monkey in canada. >>> but first, good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. and the hustle and bustle of the holiday season took a terrifying turn in portland, oregon, yesterday, when a masked gunman stormed into a busy shopping mall and opened fire, killing two people, injuring another before apparently turning the gun on himself. nbc's kirk gregory has the chilling details. >> reporter: a day of holiday shopping turned into a horrific afternoon of terror when a gunman opened fire inside a crowded suburban portland mall. >> we started receiving calls at 3:30, multiple 911 calls. we responded quickly. >> reporter: several store employees locked themselves in break rooms and bathrooms until police could arrive. >> many people locked in place, many people ran. those are the two most appropriate things to do in these circumstances. >> reporter: shaken family members waited anxiously for news as police worked to secure the mall and search for victims. >> i just want to hug her and i
. >>> plus, michigan's right to work, a cosmic close shave and an update for you on that little guy, the ikea monkey in canada. >>> but first, good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. and the hustle and bustle of the holiday season took a terrifying turn in portland, oregon, yesterday, when a masked gunman stormed into a busy shopping mall and opened fire, killing two people, injuring another before apparently turning the gun on himself. nbc's kirk gregory has the chilling...
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alisyn: start this hour in michigan. fox's mike tobin is at the statehouse among proterse still outside. he joins us live. it looks notably quiet this hour, mike. what is happening. >> reporter: an update on the legislation, allison. one of the bills related to public employees is on the way to the governor's desk where the governor says will sign it. another bill related to private sectors employees was approved by the senate but hung up in a bit of procedure called reviseal. looks like that will come back into the chambers again tomorrow. a review, pardon me. as far as what's going on behind me the numbers have dwindled quite a bit. a lot of demonstrators gone across the street to the romney building where the governor's office is. they're banging drums. if you see the white swath on the ground behind us that is the tent operated by the group, americans for prosperity. the conservative organization linked to the coke brothers. an individual named scott was there when it was torn down. >> they rushed our chant. chanting
alisyn: start this hour in michigan. fox's mike tobin is at the statehouse among proterse still outside. he joins us live. it looks notably quiet this hour, mike. what is happening. >> reporter: an update on the legislation, allison. one of the bills related to public employees is on the way to the governor's desk where the governor says will sign it. another bill related to private sectors employees was approved by the senate but hung up in a bit of procedure called reviseal. looks like...